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SlashGISRS.org and the State of Online Medias within the Community

posted by Satri on Tuesday December 06, @04:02PM   Printer-friendly   Email story  Permalink  Trackback URI  Slashdotthis  Diggthis  Del.icio.us
from the whatever-happened-to-Mr.-Garibaldi dept.
Today we offer you content and want feedback! Here's a presentation I made about SlashGISRS.org and the state of online medias within the geospatial community [look under files]. Read more below for the context, outcome and possible future. A lot of slashgisrs.org readers are community enthusiasts which also have their own blogs or at least have an opinion about blogging in the geospatial community. What do you think? As a starting point, some SlashGISRS challenges I identify in the presentation [pdf, 5.2Mb] are: "(a) Main challenge: in order to be special and worthed, slashgisrs.org must gather a critical mass of users to foster discussion, (b) act as a discussion aggregator: right now, insightful comments are scattered between numerous websites and (c) stimulate a sense of community: become a place for social exchanges and even friends making"
The context:
I was invited by Dr. Kimiz Dalkir of McGill's University to present my limited understanding of online medias in the geospatial community. Dr. Dalkir is a Community of Pratice (CoP) and Knowledge Management (KM) specialist. And so was the audience, I then haven't emphatized on geospatial tech and applications but rather on how I see communication within the community.

Outcome:
The universe is an interesting place. The KM and CoP graduated students had interesting questions and comments. One graduated student commented that even if we're mainly a content aggregator, we are also providing original content through user comments. Real-time comment moderation in a conference/classroom was also discussed.

SlashGISRS's Future:
Hey, only a little more than 2 months old and about 7000 hits daily, about 650 different users daily, a total of 148 000 hits and close to 300 member accounts which almost all receive daily headlines by email. That's not a bad start. I keep repeating we're ad-free and non-commercial. I'm doing this because I believe and I'm an enthusiast. Scanning and reading all geospatial news to pinpoint the best ones and post them on slashgisrs.org every day is a lot of work to say the least. In clearer words: this is a call for user participation! :-)

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  • My recommendations

    (Score:2, Interesting)
    by briancnorton (255) on Wednesday December 07, @11:32AM (#249)
    Feel free to ignore any or all of this, but I think I have some value to add to this.

    1)You need a better name. "SlashGISRS?" What is that? Slashdot makes sense to computer nerds because it means something. You need something that sounds cool and rolls off the tongue. Fewer syllables is better. (and easier to remember)

    2)You CAN'T do this by yourself. It's not possible. You shouldn't even try. If I were you, I would look very seriously at merging with one or more online sites to consolidate users, incorporate your business, and get some help. (other site admins or even users) Doing this alone is a sure-fire way to get burned out and fail.

    3)Why no ads? "I'm doing this because I believe and I'm an enthusiast. Stop believing and start growing. This isn't free to run, and you don't need to be ashamed of trying to be financially successful. Hell, I make a couple hundred bucks a month on my blog.

    The geospatial community desperately needs to transform to a user-centric model to keep up with IT best practices. A key-feature that is sorely lacking is community-building. I would suggest that Google geoblogs are one side of the community, but there is a STRONG need for what you are doing for the tech side.

    • by Satri (3) on Wednesday December 07, @12:09PM (#250)
      ( http://alexandreleroux.blogspot.com/ | Last Journal: Friday March 17, @04:07PM )
      First, sincere thanks Brian for being the first to jump in :-)

      1) The name. Yeah, you're right. I though of changing the name on our first anniversary, but maybe I'm wrong and we should do this right now. Anyway, I don't believe it is an enormous limitation to reaching people.

      2) Great, and I *don't want* to do anything myself alone anyway! :-) Our team is of 4, but it's mainly me feeding/managing the site right now. Anyone serious about wanting to help is more than welcomed. Any users can start by submitting stories and commenting whenever appropriate. You don't even need to be an "author" to do this. But as you can see, users don't (yet? :-) participate to the point of sharing comments regularly...

      3) No ads because I'm not rich but don't need the money. I want the tool to be community-driven, such as open source is. Which is, from my point of view, excluding ads for the moment. We're still in the "starting up" the site phase - we're still wondering how the project will be received by the community on a longer term.

      "If I were you, I would look very seriously at merging with one or more online sites to consolidate users, incorporate your business, and get some help."

      There are a lot of interesting blogs related to geospatial technologies out there. They're welcomed to join us. I guess a lot of them cherish their blog (it's their baby, they have full control over it) and they'll probably reply, "you're welcomed to join US"! :-) In the presentation I underline some reasons I believed there is a need for a slash-based website. Amongst the features, there's the comment moderation and threading system. Granted, right now, this system is useless because we don't have enough comments yet.
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      • Re:My recommendations

        (Score:3, Interesting)
        by LKS (125) <walt.eisNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Wednesday December 07, @01:28PM (#251)
        ( http://lordkingsquirrel.com/ )
        It takes a long time to build a brand - even on the web. It seems to me that there are more comments lately, and that will likely keep building up.

        What seems to me to be desperately needed is more people feeding articles to the editors. I've slacked off the last week or two while finishing up a paper, but will start in again next week scouring the web for articles to submit here.

        If even half of the registered users would submit an article a week and/or a comment a week, we'd see the site take off (IMHO of course).

        [ Parent ]
    • Re:My recommendations

      (Score:3, Interesting)
      by geognerd (63) on Wednesday December 07, @04:21PM (#252)
      I agree about the name. When I talk about the site with co-workers, I just call it SlashGIS. The "RS" is an extra mouthful. I could be wrong, but the RS people probably wouldn't mind if the RS was lopped off.
      [ Parent ]
  • by Satri (3) on Thursday December 08, @12:36PM (#256)
    ( http://alexandreleroux.blogspot.com/ | Last Journal: Friday March 17, @04:07PM )
    This is interesting and quite on topic.
    http://www.ogleearth.com/2005/12/change_of_pace.ht ml [ogleearth.com]

    In short, this great blog decided to invite people to read others sources (such as the also-great Planet Geospatial rss feed aggregator) instead of duplicating minor stories on their own blog.